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IRA Information Worksheet

mcrawford2020
Level 2

I have a new client in which the IRA Information was not properly included on the return each year.  I am trying to "update" the info using the IRA Information Worksheet.  I am a bit confused... 

Part IV, Line 18 Enter combined value of all traditional IRAs (including SEP & Simple IRAs)

This line feeds to Part I, Line 2 Traditional IRA - Year-end value 12/31/2024

I have this information and am ok with it...the confusion is with Part I, Line 1 Total basis in traditional IRAs which is fed from Part III, Line 12 Traditional IRA basis for 2023 and earlier years

It just seems that part I line 1 is for traditional IRAs (EXcluding the SEP) and Part 1 Line 2 is traditional IRAs (INcluding the SEP).

Am I reading too much into this? Or completely off base?

Help...

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Just-Lisa-Now-
Level 15
Level 15

What info on the IRA worksheet is flowing to the tax return?  Do they have a non-deductible IRA basis that should be on the 8606?   What is it you're trying to accomplish?   


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mcrawford2020
Level 2

It does not flow to the tax return, just trying to report the basis for the non-deductible contributions that were done in the past and not put on the return.  Will help her down the road when she starts drawing.

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Taxes-by-Rocky
Level 8

Generally speaking, SEPs and SIMPLEs won't have Federal basis....but the SEP may have state basis which you would need to track on a separate worksheet.  I believe the worksheet is designed to only handle Federal basis of Roth IRAs and traditional IRAs for which no deduction was available, and therefore, should have been reported on a Form 8606 (in the year contributed).  Suggest making a separate spreadsheet for IRA contributions (of all types) so you can track Federal (and state) basis over the years.  It helps for conversions and RMDs down the road.

PS.  FMV field is to accumulate the data needed to pro-rate the basis relieved (on Form 8606) for withdrawals in later years (i.e., as computed across all IRAs - except Roths - regardless of whether they have Federal basis).